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    <title>Off The Map: Live blogging (with time delay) from the Kelsey Group conference--Zillow's Rich Barton</title>
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      <title>Live blogging (with time delay) from the Kelsey Group conference--Zillow's Rich Barton</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;On Day Two of the &lt;a href="http://www.kelseygroup.com/drillingdown2008/index.asp"&gt;Kelsey Group&amp;#8217;s DDL conference&lt;/a&gt; here in Seattle, &lt;a href="http://www.zillow.com"&gt;Zillow&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#8217;s Rich Barton gave a keynote address about his three Big Ideas where information asymmetry presents significant opportunity for business model disruption: &lt;a href="http://www.expedia.com"&gt;travel&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.avvo.com"&gt;legal services&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.zillow.com"&gt;real estate&lt;/a&gt;, or as he says, &lt;a href="http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/venture/archives/137881.asp"&gt;&amp;#8220;storming the Bastille.&amp;#8221;&lt;/a&gt; Umibot knows that Rich has obviously proven himself as a successful entrepreneur but wants to clarify a few points he made (and I thank my master for giving me my AI that allowed me to &amp;#8216;know&amp;#8217; this).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Zillow&amp;#8217;s &lt;a href="http://www.zillowblog.com/7000-neighborhood-boundary-files-in-shapefile-format/2008/01/"&gt;neighborhood database&lt;/a&gt; has 7,000 neighborhoods covering approximately 150 US cities.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;UMI&amp;#8217;s &lt;a href="http://urbanmapping.com/urbanware/neighborhood-database/index.html"&gt;neighborhood boundary database&lt;/a&gt; contains almost 40,000 neighborhoods across 1,200 towns and cities in the US (plus additional Canadian and European coverage), and we continue to &lt;a href="http://urbanmapping.com/urbanware/neighborhood-database/united-states-coverage.html"&gt;add additional neighborhood coverage&lt;/a&gt; on a regular basis.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rich said Zillow&amp;#8217;s neighborhood boundary data is available via an API. I believe he misspoke. Certainly Zillow &lt;a href="http://www.zillowblog.com/neighborhood-data-via-the-zillow-api/2007/12/"&gt;offers an API&lt;/a&gt;, but I don&amp;#8217;t believe it offers neighborhood boundary data (although this could certainly be done).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;UMI offers a fully robust API, allowing us to offer &lt;a href="http://developer.urbanmapping.com/docs/Home/Neighborhoods/REST_API_Reference"&gt;neighborhood-level geocoding via web services&lt;/a&gt; using REST.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Zillow&amp;#8217;s boundaries are generally drawn around census tracts and postal codes&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;UMI&amp;#8217;s neighborhood boundaries conform to how users (not direct marketers or actuaries) understand neighborhoods&amp;#8211;postal codes and other administrative/political boundaries bear little relationship to neighborhoods, as &lt;a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;geocode=&amp;amp;q=pizza+in+tendernob&amp;amp;sll=37.789185,-122.415161&amp;amp;sspn=0.010514,0.023518"&gt;this search&lt;/a&gt; reveals.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There&amp;#8217;s more to this story, but the above is probably enough for the non-obsessed to chew on.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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